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[Hollander]

As promised I would build a second (and better) version of the midi-scale Acclamator Star Destroyer. I hope you guys like it.

[Anio]

Very nicely executed.  

[Mr Man]

Very nice Hollander . Did you take the old one apart for this or have you still got it?

[Hollander]

Mr Man, on 17 July 2011 - 06:20 PM, said:

Very nice Hollander . Did you take the old one apart for this or have you still got it?

I had to take the old one apart, because I had to use all my 3x6 wedge plates for this built. I'm still not satisfied with this version, so I will make a third version in a couple of months I guess.  

Anio said:

Very nicely executed.  

Thanks.  

[P4trickvH]

Looking good, well done.

[The Legonater]

Nice. It makes me wish LEGO does a Midi Acclamator.

[Brickdoctor]

Huge improvements, Hollander! I can't spot any major missing details. I also love that you're still not satisfied. Builders that never settle do nothing but improve.

[Hollander]

Brickdoctor, on 17 July 2011 - 08:45 PM, said:

Huge improvements, Hollander! I can't spot any major missing details. I also love that you're still not satisfied. Builders that never settle do nothing but improve.

Thanks Brickdoctor (and others)!

The thing what I find is hard when building an Acclamator, is the angle which those plates have to make. I don't know exactly how to explain this in English, but the angle of those wedge plates is not sharp(?) enough to catch the shape of the Acclamator. The versions I made are both too pointed, if you know what I mean. Oh well, I'll try to explain myself with a picture I made quick with paint:





The upper one has about the shape the ship has now and next to it the very basis way to make the angle.

But I could also try to use a 3x12 wedge plate to make the right angle for the Acclamator, as seen in the bottom painting, and you automatically create the space in the shape of a triangel in the middle just like the real Acclamator has. This technique would make it look like far more realistic I guess.

Edited by Hollander, 17 July 2011 - 09:30 PM.

[Masked Builder]

Quite cool! I for one, would love to see this as a midi-scale set.  (Hey we can never get too many!)  This MOC looks very nicely built and now I want to go build a midi-scale ship.

[Hollander]

Masked Builder, on 18 July 2011 - 01:57 PM, said:

Quite cool! I for one, would love to see this as a midi-scale set.  (Hey we can never get too many!)  This MOC looks very nicely built and now I want to go build a midi-scale ship.

Thanks 'Masked Builder'! And if you want to build a Midi-scale ship yourself now, what are you waiting for?    

[Anio]

Hollander, on 18 July 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

Thanks 'Masked Builder'! And if you want to build a Midi-scale ship yourself now, what are you waiting for?    

Is it possible to post photos of the inside ? (to see how it is made)

[Hollander]

Anio, on 18 July 2011 - 03:59 PM, said:

Is it possible to post photos of the inside ? (to see how it is made)

Darn, you're only 30 minutes too late... I just broke it down, sorry.  

I made a 1-plate high frame, but no really special building technices or so. Everything was just connected with a bunch of hinges.

[Anio]

Hollander, on 18 July 2011 - 04:20 PM, said:

Darn, you're only 30 minutes too late... I just broke it down, sorry.  

I'm waiting for your third version, then.  

[Brickdoctor]

Hollander, on 17 July 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

The thing what I find is hard when building an Acclamator, is the angle which those plates have to make. I don't know exactly how to explain this in English, but the angle of those wedge plates is not sharp(?) enough to catch the shape of the Acclamator. The versions I made are both too pointed, if you know what I mean. Oh well, I'll try to explain myself with a picture I made quick with paint:

Ah. The problem comes from the use of 3x6 plates. I believe a more accurate angle can be achieved with the 8x4 wedge plate. (or at least that's what I've seen in other MOCs)

[KielDaMan]

This is certainly a hundred times better than the first version, kudos for the continuous improvement Hollander! Though I don't know how you could still top this one as it already look perfect to me at midi-scale, perhaps expanding it to an ambitious UCS-scale one?

[Praiter Yed]

Very nice Hollander - much sleeker than version 1.   . I'm also looking forward to V3.

Hollander, on 18 July 2011 - 04:20 PM, said:

Darn, you're only 30 minutes too late... I just broke it down, sorry.  

WOW. You are relentless in the destruction of your own MOCs - I wish I could be more like this. I can't bring myself to take mine apart (not even the crap ones!).

[Hollander]

Brickdoctor, on 18 July 2011 - 04:59 PM, said:

Ah. The problem comes from the use of 3x6 plates. I believe a more accurate angle can be achieved with the 8x4 wedge plate. (or at least that's what I've seen in other MOCs)

I had the same thoughts. This bricklink folder includes an amazing Acclamator, the builder has also used those 4x8 wedge plates. Next month I will probably place a new Bricklink order and then also get my hands on a bunch of those wedge plates.

KielDaMan, on 19 July 2011 - 03:22 PM, said:

This is certainly a hundred times better than the first version, kudos for the continuous improvement Hollander! Though I don't know how you could still top this one as it already look perfect to me at midi-scale, perhaps expanding it to an ambitious UCS-scale one?

Can you read my thoughts KielDaMan? Because weeks before I made the first Acclamator, I promised myself to make an UCS Acclamator one day.   But, that won't happen this year I guess. Why? Well, I have to improve my skills a lot first before I dare to start such a huge build, neither I have the parts. I'm also not skilled enough on how to connect the upper and under hull plates to the frame, I was thinking about using magnets, just like in the UCS Star Destroyer. I don't know if there are any tutorials or tips & tricks can be bound on the web regarding those large wedge plate constructions.

Praiter Yed, on 19 July 2011 - 03:23 PM, said:

Very nice Hollander - much sleeker than version 1.   . I'm also looking forward to V3.


WOW. You are relentless in the destruction of your own MOCs - I wish I could be more like this. I can't bring myself to take mine apart (not even the crap ones!).

Thanks 'Praiter Yed'!

I know I probably deconstruct my MOC's earlier than most of the folks here, but the point is, ALL my lego is stationed at my grandparents' house. I'm here for a couple of weeks now, so I have to take my change on building a load of MOC's right?  

[Brickdoctor]

Hollander, on 19 July 2011 - 04:31 PM, said:

I had the same thoughts. This bricklink folder includes an amazing Acclamator, the builder has also used those 4x8 wedge plates. Next month I will probably place a new Bricklink order and then also get my hands on a bunch of those wedge plates.

Sounds good. I do like your idea of angling the plates inward as well, though. Maybe a fusion of both ideas.

[Masked Builder]

Hollander, on 18 July 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

Thanks 'Masked Builder'! And if you want to build a Midi-scale ship yourself now, what are you waiting for?    

Yep I know what I want to build now, you'll just have to wait to see it.

[Fallenangel]

Hollander, on 17 July 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

Thanks Brickdoctor (and others)!

The thing what I find is hard when building an Acclamator, is the angle which those plates have to make. I don't know exactly how to explain this in English, but the angle of those wedge plates is not sharp(?) enough to catch the shape of the Acclamator. The versions I made are both too pointed, if you know what I mean. Oh well, I'll try to explain myself with a picture I made quick with paint:


[respectful snip]


The upper one has about the shape the ship has now and next to it the very basis way to make the angle.

But I could also try to use a 3x12 wedge plate to make the right angle for the Acclamator, as seen in the bottom painting, and you automatically create the space in the shape of a triangel in the middle just like the real Acclamator has. This technique would make it look like far more realistic I guess.

I applaud the amount of thought you've put into capturing the shape of the Acclamator accurately!

Have you tried hinged plates? (Something like what has been done here?)

[Brickdoctor]

Masked Builder, on 19 July 2011 - 08:39 PM, said:

Yep I know what I want to build now, you'll just have to wait to see it.

Is it that half-built Venator in your flickr? Or the Nu?

[M<0><0<DSWIM]

I agree with others that this is a huge improvement over the 1st version!  The overall shape and color scheme really make this stand out and look quite accurate.  I see your point about improving the shape/angles, but you could post this as a final version and I'd buy it!