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#1 Sérgio

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 10:18 PM

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Hi Everbody.

On this moc I try to copy the most important detail on Real Engine.
Use and abuse of SNOT.

Two 9V Motor

Self made stickers

Some rare parts like the front window and single buffers

realistic pantograph, etc..



Hope You like it :)

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#2 lightningtiger

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 10:50 PM

OMG ! :laugh:
I hope 'The Brickster' sees this A.S.A.P. - man I think you're heading front page for this one. :grin:
AWESOME is too smaller a word for this - talk about hitting the nail on the head - but you did it ! :sweet:  :grin:  :laugh:
Perfect shape to the real one - trim too is perfect. :grin:
One of the best train engines I have seen in over a month ! :sweet:
Good one 'Sergio' and keep on bricking ! :laugh:

#3 Duq

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 12:45 AM

That's a nice model. We've a very similar engine class in Holland (1600/1700/1800) so I'm very familiar with the design.
If anything I think the light at the top is too big...
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 12:50 AM

That's really, really accurate! It looks like exactly like the really thing, honestly you can barely tell the difference! I'm not train guy, but this looks like it took a lot of effort! I'd love to see some more!
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 02:31 AM

View PostSérgio, on Jan 26 2010, 09:18 AM, said:

Hi Everbody.

On this moc I try to copy the most important detail on Real Engine.
Use and abuse of SNOT.

Hope You like it :)

I like it alright, it's a very nice moc. I'd probably lengthen it a bit, so the longer gap between the middle windows is more pronounced, and the roof vents are longer.
Now I'm off to look for more pictures of the pantograph on brickshelf, I think I may have to borrow your design in the future  :classic:

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 03:22 AM

Fantastic work here!  I love the color scheme and the shape of the locomotive is just really eye-catching.  Lots of nice SNOT work on this and I especially like the buffer design.  Great work and look for this on Classic-Town.net soon.    :tongue:

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:37 AM

This is really great. It really is a very faithful and detailed rendition of the original locomotive. And it's 6-stud wide, isn't it?

Have you tried or are you willing to try to put doors? It looks like there is only a 2-stud space there so it might not be feasible.

I have been wondering about what could be a nice colour scheme for a new loco model to build, and this orange+black is an excellent option.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 11:28 AM

View Postpeterab, on Jan 26 2010, 03:31 AM, said:

I like it alright, it's a very nice moc. I'd probably lengthen it a bit, so the longer gap between the middle windows is more pronounced, and the roof vents are longer.
Now I'm off to look for more pictures of the pantograph on brickshelf, I think I may have to borrow your design in the future  :classic:
Weel, this loco is bit shorter than the real one, I think it's because of the sharpness of LEGO train track curves.

Otherwise, I love this MOC, it's detailed and very similar to the real one. Great work.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 12:32 PM

Very nice! However, I'd probably use Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Grill on the sides instead of the Tile, Modified 1 x 2 Grill. :)

#10 Sérgio

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 12:34 PM

thanks everbody :)

Yes the Locomotive its a little bit short, but its bigger than a Train set scale, This CP2601 Have 36 Studs long

did not do it more bigger because the engines are smaller than the passenger cars and my passenger cars already have 40 or more studs long

the light from the top is a little big and may change it later

The doors actually realy works

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I try Modified "zigzag" Brick, but i Prefer the grill, because grill its grill and the bricks its only "Zigzag" and second, that grill are metallic silver ;)

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 02:00 PM

Aha, that's great!  :thumbup: You should copyright those doors  :tongue: They are very useful when having only a 2 studs width.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:22 PM

That's a nice moc you have built with decals and a true colours to the original.
It certainly looks very similar to the French BB7200 that I built some time ago
for TTCE competition, but my engine has a completely different colour-scheme.
I suppose these locos are made in the same factory ?
A difficult part to model accurately in 6-wide for this loco, is the front which has a nasty mix of
angle, but I think you have done a good job.
I would lower the whole engine to get more sleek proportions and hence give an impression
of beeing longer. This is just a matter of taste though.
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#13 Sérgio

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:40 PM

View PostSelander, on Jan 26 2010, 09:22 PM, said:

That's a nice moc you have built with decals and a true colours to the original.
It certainly looks very similar to the French BB7200 that I built some time ago
for TTCE competition, but my engine has a completely different colour-scheme.
I suppose these locos are made in the same factory ?
A difficult part to model accurately in 6-wide for this loco, is the front which has a nasty mix of
angle, but I think you have done a good job.
I would lower the whole engine to get more sleek proportions and hence give an impression
of beeing longer. This is just a matter of taste though.

Yeah the Alsthom its made in France

I did a self scale between realistic and sets scale, its 6Wide and 36/38 Studs Long

the nose its realy dificult and this is the better way i found to build

actully this MOC is the second version, maybe in the future i will upgrade, Lego for me its that, never finished

tanks for the tips ;)



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http://www.youtube.c...f/4/zsH840SyME0 with 4 passenger car (44 Studs each one)

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 12:56 AM

View PostSérgio, on Jan 26 2010, 11:34 PM, said:

Yes the Locomotive its a little bit short, but its bigger than a Train set scale, This CP2601 Have 36 Studs long

did not do it more bigger because the engines are smaller than the passenger cars and my passenger cars already have 40 or more studs long

I can completely understand the choice of length, perhaps moving the middle windows out one stud each would have the same effect. It's a great model as is anyway. I really like the working doors.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 01:11 AM

View Postpeterab, on Jan 27 2010, 12:56 AM, said:

I can completely understand the choice of length, perhaps moving the middle windows out one stud each would have the same effect. It's a great model as is anyway. I really like the working doors.

Actully the spaces between windows are 'transclear brick 1x2 » 4 studs» transclear brick 1x2 » 6 Studs » transclear brick 1x2 » 4 studs» transclear brick 1x2'
you propose   'transclear brick 1x2 » 5 studs» transclear brick 1x2 » 6 Studs » transclear brick 1x2 » 5 studs» transclear brick 1x2' ?

I can try in the future :wink:

I dont have time and parts to do it yet, but i will try :wink:

Thanks  :thumbup:

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 01:29 AM

View PostSérgio, on Jan 27 2010, 12:11 PM, said:

Actully the spaces between windows are 'transclear brick 1x2 » 4 studs» transclear brick 1x2 » 6 Studs » transclear brick 1x2 » 4 studs» transclear brick 1x2'
you propose   'transclear brick 1x2 » 5 studs» transclear brick 1x2 » 6 Studs » transclear brick 1x2 » 5 studs» transclear brick 1x2' ?

Thanks  :thumbup:

First I was thinking of 'transclear brick 1x2 » 4 studs» transclear brick 1x2 » 8 Studs » transclear brick 1x2 » 4 studs» transclear brick 1x2',
but to avoid making it longer you could try 'transclear brick 1x2 » 3 studs» transclear brick 1x2 » 8 Studs » transclear brick 1x2 » 3 studs» transclear brick 1x2'

I think the middle windows need to look further apart than the gap between the windows on the end.

One of the good things about your Moc is the colour, orange is still a rare colour for me so I understand you may not have a free choice in parts.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 05:39 AM

Really, really nice engine. The face is extremely well done.

As others have said the lamp is a little big but there is an easy solution. Turn part 2444 upside down and stick a 1x1 clear round plate on top. Will be perfect.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 10:06 AM

I think he meant changing [ ] 4 [ ] 6 [ ] 4 [ ] to [ ] 3 [ ] 8 [ ] 3 [ ].
Same overall length, but a bigger gap in the middle.
By the way, if you can still edit the title of the topic you might want to fix the typo (asthlom -> alsthom)...
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 12:53 PM

Very nice work.  You replicated the original very well.  I have a question:  Where were you able to find the two black framed wind shields? I have searched for those in the past.  There are very few on bricklink and they are extremely expensive.

Anyway ... very nice work and thanks for sharing with us.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 05:52 PM

View Postktbflyfish, on Jan 27 2010, 12:53 PM, said:

Very nice work.  You replicated the original very well.  I have a question:  Where were you able to find the two black framed wind shields? I have searched for those in the past.  There are very few on bricklink and they are extremely expensive.

Anyway ... very nice work and thanks for sharing with us.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 02:38 AM

Wow, you did a wonderful job recreating the real train in Lego bricks.  I'm impressed.  :sweet:  The decals are so flawless, you can't even tell that they are decals.  Keep up the amazing work, bud.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 02:32 AM

View PostDuq, on Jan 27 2010, 10:06 AM, said:

I think he meant changing [ ] 4 [ ] 6 [ ] 4 [ ] to [ ] 3 [ ] 8 [ ] 3 [ ].
Same overall length, but a bigger gap in the middle.
By the way, if you can still edit the title of the topic you might want to fix the typo (asthlom -> alsthom)...

Opss  :blush:
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i think [ ] 3 [ ] 8 [ ] 3 [ ] becomes too disproportionate because the real windows do not have that much difference between them

Here is a picture of the proportions of the locomotive

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[ ] 4 [ ] 6 [ ] 4 [ ] (As my MOC)

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which suggested the idea and I disagree with is this [ ] 3 [ ] 8 [ ] 3 [ ]

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The first and second windows are too close.


To get just the ideal range would be [ ] 5 [ ] 8 [ ] 5 [ ] but this need to increase 2 studs on each side, 4 in all, had to change the base, sides and roof, was beyond that almost the length of my coaches that are 40 to 44 studs long and the real engine is smaller than the coaches

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 03:45 AM

View PostSérgio, on Feb 1 2010, 01:32 PM, said:

i think [ ] 3 [ ] 8 [ ] 3 [ ] becomes too disproportionate because the real windows do not have that much difference between them

I felt the middle section of your model looked more crowded than the prototype photo, and made it look a little short. It's sometimes a difficult choice between options when using selective compression, and the final result often depends on which feature you focus on.



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