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Pirates 2009: A Critical Review

Article by TheBrickster 11/27/08 avpirate2.jpg

Ahoy Maties! It’s been a great year for Lego with a number of outstanding City sets, Indiana Jones, and the highlight of the year, the early release of the new 2009 Pirates theme. For the Lego Pirate fans that live in the United States, many Toys R Us stores have the complete Pirate 2009 line-up, and what a great thought considering Christmas is just 27 days away.

The Collection

The Pirates 2009 theme offers a nice collection of sets from Impulse to “Big Ship” providing buyers with a variety of different sets and price-points to choose from. Of course, if you’re any “die-hard” Lego Pirate fan, you will soon find yourself with the complete collection with even multiples of the smaller sets.

Minifigs

Lego really did an outstanding job with the new Pirate minifigs. This time around, what makes them extra special is the two-sided torsos. For this first wave of sets, there are two distinct opposing forces, the red-coated Imperial Guards, and marauding Pirates.

Imperial Guards

A total of six different Imperial Guards and variations are contained in the eight-set Pirate collection. Unfortunately, one minifig (third from left), makes itself into the majority of the sets creating a number of “clones”. A total of 11 Imperials are contained in all the sets. The Imperial minifigs have three different types of hats including the Bicorner, Tricorner, and Shako. This time around, the Shako is printed with a gold emblem and red top feather for added detail. All of the Imperials have blue Epaulettes, with the exception of the blue-coated Imperial commander found in 6242 Soldier’s Fort. His is red.

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Imperial Guards & Backside of Torso

Pirates

The Pirates outnumber the Imperials at a total of 15 for the eight-set collection. Out of these 15 Pirates, 13 are unique with only Brickbeard, the Pirate captain, duplicated in three of the sets. Three of the additional Pirates from 6243 Brickbeard’s Bounty are not pictured. The highlight of the Pirates is the new female pirate with green torso and eye patch. She’s a real “beaut”. All of the new pirates, with the exception of Brickbeard, have sleeveless shirts and vests with yellow arms. Unfortunately, only dark green and blue hat rags (or scarves) are used, but this does allow one to create two factions of pirates. In addition, one of the minifigs that I’ve labeled a pirate is a castaway contained in 6241 Loot Island. He has a nice long grey beard and sad face expressing his discontent with the small island.

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Pirates

Additional Minifigs

Two additional minifigs are included within the Pirate theme, both contained in 6243 Brickbeard’s Bounty. These include the white dressed Imperial queen/princess and a mermaid used as part of the ship’s bow. These minifigs and the pirate wench bring a nice female element to the new Pirates theme.

Set Variety

Lego did an excellent job in offering a wide collection of different types of sets in this first wave. Pirates can hop aboard the flagship of the collection, 6243 Brickbeard’s Bounty in search of lost treasure. If any of the pirates have to walk the plank, they may find themselves marooned on 6241 Loot Island; but they can cook a fish while they polish their gems from 8397 Pirate Survival. For additional adventure, they can build a makeshift raft and venture out to sea in 6240 Kraken Attackin’, but beware the “Little Kraken”. The pirates have the perfect place to hide on a nearby island in 6253 Shipwreck Hideout. During all of the pirate adventure, the Imperials can organize their assault from 6242 Soldier’s Fort, building up their army with 8396 Soldier’s Arsenal and 6239 Cannon Battle. With these numerous types of sets on land and sea, children (and AFOL) have an endless possibility of imaginary play.

Unique Pieces (Not Necessarily New)

The new Pirates theme offers an abundance of unique pieces including but not limited to the new metallic painted shooting cannon, a great piece for those of us from the U.S. that never had a shooting cannon. With the new “metallic grey pearl” color, the cannon look terrific. For those wanting to stock up on the cannon, 6239 Cannon Battle is the perfect set. The new theme also includes some great minifig accessories including a dynamite stick and banana contained in 6242 Soldier’s Fort. I also love the gold, blue, and red epaulettes, esp. the gold one used for Brickbeard. A new fish has been added to the theme, this one with an open mouth that allows it to be attached to a pole/stick, as contained in 8397 Pirate Survival. In addition, a new multi-colored parrot provides nice tropical colors for island scenes.

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Shooting Cannon

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Unique Pieces

The new theme also introduces a new color for the classic 5x14 boat, dark blue. For those of you who dislike the new color, 6242 Soldier’s Fort does contain one in brown. The dark blue boats appear to be for the Imperials while the brown is for the Pirates, based upon boxart. Paddles for these boats are white and brown.

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Imperial Blue Boat & Brown Pirate Boat

One of the nicest elements of Pirates 2009 is the new tan base plate found in 6241 Loot Island. The base plate serves as a sand mound representing an island. Its middle section is open allowing one to place an 8x8 vignette-sized plate in its center. The small pit inside makes a great place to store pirate loot. It will be interesting to see what new creations others will make utilizing this new piece.

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Island Base Plate

Imperial and Pirate Flags

It’s great to see the use of the old classic cannon insignia on the Imperial flags, but the Pirate skull and crossbones is a bit different. The new skull and crossbones has a Jolly Roger that has a larger top skull section giving it a more cartoon-like appearance. I hope the clips of the smaller flags hold together better than the old ones from the Classic Pirate collection.

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Flags

The Kraken

Set 6240 Kraken Attackin’ introduces a new dark red/maroon octopus that serves as a Kraken to attack pirates aboard the masted raft. The Kraken has been criticized for being too small to be a creature of formidable attack. Options could have been to create a larger sea creature like the dragon in the new Castle theme, or a brick-built creation similar to that of the Vikings theme. If one considers that the Kraken is “just a large octopus”, rather than a huge sea creature from the depths of the ocean, it isn’t too bad.

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Kraken

Theme Colors

Pirates 2009 offer a nice selection of colors including many Earth-tone colors like browns, grays, tan, and white. Accent colors include a splash of gold and red. Unlike Imperial forts found in the Classic Pirate theme, 6242 Soldier’s Fort delivers a nice combination of white, tan, and brown, with no yellow (except for a single banana). The Earth-tone colors work exceptionally well for 6253 Shipwreck Hideout giving the set a “more natural” look. 6243 Brickbeard’s Bounty is mostly brown, black, tan, and gold, with bright red and white striped sails, two bearing a large Jolly Roger. I’m surprised the new dark blue color was not used as “water plates”, but rather Lego stayed somewhat true to the classic color scheme in keeping regular blue. Dark blue is used for a sloped rooftop in 6242 Soldier’s Fort. Overall, the colors were nicely combined to create a more realistic palette to the theme.

Modular Construction

Set 6242 Soldier’s Fort offers a nice modular construction design that allows one to attach sections of buildings and walls with two technic beams. It will certainly be great if Lego continues to expand this building method and offer additional add-ons to future pirate sets.

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6242 Modular Construction

6192 Pirate Construction Set

Special mention must be made to a new Pirate set not included within the theme. Targeted for a younger audience, set 6192 Pirate Construction set is more along the “basic creator” variety and utilizes mostly standard bricks. The set does offer one exclusive blue-torso minifig not contained within any of the eight-set collection.

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6192 Basic Pirates and Exclusive Pirate Minifig

Set Reviews

With special thanks to all of the individuals who were kind enough to share early image reviews of Pirates 2009, Eurobricks has pictures of the complete line-up. The following reviews and comments can be found for each set:

8396 Soldier’s Arsenal & 8397 Pirate Survival: NewRight

6239 Cannon Battle, 6240 Kraken Attackin’: TheBrickster

6241 Loot Island & 6242 Soldier’s Fort: Lego12

6243 Brickbeard’s Bounty: Svelte_Corps

6253 Shipwreck Hideout: Moose and TheBrickster

6192 Basic Pirate Construction Set: TheBrickster

Note: If I've failed to mention/miss a review, please forgive the oversight.

Eurobricks Rating

With polls for each of the Eurobricks’ reviews, an analysis of the ratings based on the 1 to 5 point scale was performed. As of November 27, 2008, this is how Eurobricks’ pirate fans rank each of the sets. Based on the polls; surprisingly, no set scored in the 90 percentile category. The highest ranked set was 6243 Brickbeard’s Bounty at 89.7%, the “flagship” of the new theme. The small impulse set, 8396 Soldier’s Arsenal was the 2nd highest ranked set at 88.4%. 6253 Shipwreck Hideout was the second largest set ranked at 87.4%. The rest of the scores as well as the number of voters appear on the graph:

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Eurobricks' Polls

My Rating

All things considered, if I were to go out today and buy just a few of the sets, I would start with 6242 Soldier’s Fort that surprisingly was only rated an 82.3% (my personal favorite of the collection), followed by 6253 Shipwreck Hideout (rated 87.4%). To help build my Imperial army, I would pick up a few of 6239 Cannon Battle sets because I really like the cannon. Between these three sets, they offer a great amount of diversity and play to really create some fun pirate adventures.

Opportunities for Improvement

I have only a few complaints over the new theme. 1) Although the gold chests contained in a few of the sets are a nice change, I still prefer brown over gold. I was surprised to find a brown chest in 6242 Soldier’s Fort. 2) When trying to attach the upper mouth/snout of the crocodile contained in 6241 Loot Island, the piece was so hard to fit into the main crocodile body piece, the mouth showed white stress marks once attached. This is poor quality on the part of Lego. 3) The multiple use of the face of the Imperial soldier contained in 8396 Soldier’s Arsenal is too redundant. I think a more standard face would have been a better option, esp. for 8396 which will most certainly be used as an army-builder. 4) As mentioned above, the Kraken is too small. Pirate fans like their Krakens big! 5) More palm trees are needed. With the entire collection of eight sets, only one palm tree is included in 6242 Soldier’s Fort. Surprisingly, 6253 Shipwreck Hideout has none. 6) The new Indiana Jones crate appears in the theme more than classic-style barrels. I prefer barrels, but would enjoy seeing a better balance of both.

Future of the Theme

I can’t wait to see what new sets will be added to the 2009 Pirates theme. I’m sure we’ll be seeing some sort of Imperial ship, and perhaps the expansion of the modular 6242 Soldier’s Fort. I’m really looking forward to adding more walls and buildings to the fort. Another faction of soldiers like Spanish Armada or Blue-Coat Soldiers would be nice, not to mention some adventure with a large Islanders set. Whatever the set, I’m sure the continuation of the new Pirates theme will be welcomed.

Summary

I’m a big Adventurers and Indiana Jones fan who also likes the historic themes like Castle and Pirates. Unfortunately, I really missed out during a long dark-age period when collecting Lego was not something that I would be proud to admit. I only received a few Pirate sets as a gift choosing not to buy any on the store shelves. Although I really missed out on the great Classic Pirate sets, I think Lego did a fantastic job at creating the new Pirates 2009 theme. Lego stayed true to its building style and pieces, while still introducing new colors and elements. The theme is close enough to the old classic collection that its sets might integrate well for those individuals with an older collection. With more Indiana Jones sets, the introduction of the Farm sub-theme, and potential for more Castle sets including 10193 (Medieval Market Village), Pirates 2009 is certainly an exciting theme that will appeal to AFOL and the kids who enjoyed Pirates of the Caribbean. Good luck finding the sets at a store near you!

References

Brickset

Eurobricks: Classic-Pirates.com

Peeron

Wikipedia: Lego Pirates

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That's an awesome article Brickster!

I love the little graph. :pir-laugh:

I'll take a closer look at it tomorrow.

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I agree, very well done! I love seeing that graph and how votes had broken down.

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Thanks for your excellent and comprehensive overview of this new line, The Brickster. It exceeds your already high standard for reviews! It is great to have a 'one-stop shop' for information about the new line with summaries of set names, piece counts, unique pieces etc. I think your assessment of the sets is very fair as well.

I rated the article an 'Outstanding', but the line itself only an 'Above Average'. While it certainly is a good collection of sets, I don't think it is an amazing line overall. Don't get me wrong; I think the minifigs and new elements are unsurpassed but design-wise the sets themselves could perhaps be a little better. Actually trying to pin down what I mean is kind of hard, as I think TLG has perfected a commercial range of sets that will sell - from small army-building Impulses, to the cheap and friendly cannon set, to the well-designed raft and mid-ranged island set, to the larger shipwreck base/ Imperial fort and huge Brickbeard's Bounty - I think there is something here at everyone's pricepoint. It is also really great to see human vs human factions, which don't involve cyborgs, mutants or energy-thieving aliens or rock monsters.

Having built all the sets, I just get the feeling that some things could have been done better. The 6241 island set is probably most emblematic of this. They go to all the trouble of producing a fantastic, versatile new baseplate which can connect to other baseplates and sit on regular studs, and all that goes on it is a little dock, a little stone skull building, and some terrible trees. Great pieces! Not so great design :pir-sceptic: I kind of feel the same way about the 6242 fort as well - the modular design is interesting, and there are some nice techniques (like the little bridge) but overall I find the set a little bit bare and uninteresting, despite great touches like the prisoner luring the key-holding monkey with the banana. And I'm one of the people who really likes the new panelled walls and even applied the stickers! :pir_laugh2: Even 6243 Brickbeard's Bounty, which is probably my favourite set overall, is quite a simple build - the hull and masts are quite straightforward and only really the cabin at the end is bricky enough for me.

I feel like I sound too harsh, but as I said, I do really like the new line - I just don't think it's brilliant yet. Great pieces and figs but no 'wow! how did they do that?' factor. Pirates 09 doesn't quite yet have the resonances that the Castle 07 relaunch seemed to have with their ABS ancestors - great looking sets with a solid design foundation. I do however look forward to seeing what the designers come up with for the theme in future.

I am also curious to see if the results of the polls change in 6 months time once more members have the chance to get their fingers on the new sets as there does still seem to be a residual hostility to the new line (as you can see in the 'which is better? BSB or BB' poll thread). Maybe it will be time then to come back and do a 'Pirates 09: Restrospective' :pir-tongue:

And yes, we *do* need more palm trees!

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This is clearly the best article that you have ever written. First of all, you have set the benchmark of how a quality article should be written. In all aspects, you have covered and analysis this article in both positive and negative aspects of the new Pirate theme. I am extremely impressed, by the entire layout and concise writing which gives such clarity for Eurobricks wide range of audience.

The most impressive feature in your article, is the analytical of our Eurobricks poll results. You have transformed mere raw data, into very useful information and is certainly very useful from the perspective of a marketer. I am sure, TLG or any retailers will be extremely pleased to know where the current Pirate sets position in US and the rest of the world. In addition, our poll results have a large sampling frame. With that, I must admit that this piece of information is very useful.

Following on, you have highlighted the amount of minifigs, especially on the characteristics and order of appearence. This is very helpful for collectors whom is out to build an empire such as Bonaparte and Mister Phes. The unique pieces is very well summarised by highlighting the new elements which have appeared in these sets. I love the entire coverage, and this is the best informative and useful article that I have ever come across. :pir-sweet:

Why do I consider it useful? Because, this is the only article which can provide me an in-depth views on the new Pirate sets for someone whom have building experience and is not released to the rest of the world. Outstanding piece of work! Thanks for taking your time do this for the benefit of Eurobricks Community. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

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Yeah, I had that exact same problem with the Loot Island's alligator head being too hard to snap on~ mine shows white stress marks too. It must just be this batch, because my dark-green alligator from the Indiana Jones River Chase was fine. :pir_wacko:

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Dear Brickster, might I recommend one amendment to this article? Instead of linking to BrickSet, how about linking to the Pictorial Reviews in our very own forum as they examine the new sets far more thoroughly than BrickSet - not to mention you wrote some of those Pictorial Reviews, so give your good work a plug!

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Thank you all for the outstanding feedback. I still want to add to this article, but these do take some time.

Svelte_Corps: I enjoyed reading your comments re. this theme. Perhaps some of us are so excited to see the return of Pirates, it clouds our judgement and opinions of the new sets. I didn't mention it in my article, but the piece count seems low in all the sets (at least for the price). Perhaps Lego should have offered some additional detailing with more pieces. I was very pleased when building all the sets, although I have not built the Pirate Ship yet. I can understand what you mean though. I felt this way when buying the last set of City Construction sets.

White Fang: I'm esp. glad you enjoyed the poll results. I don't think we've seen results of polls in an analytic form before, so I'm glad I added it to the article. Thank you also for the great feedback which I always enjoy reading and appreciate.

Phes: I did link all the reviews of the sets in the "Set Review Section" of the article. I wanted official set pictures in the beginning and thought an outside source would be good.

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If Classic-Pirates.com is to ever to become the ultimate Pirate LEGO source then it should all come from the inside!

Looks like we'll need to do better. :pir-tongue:

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What? Classic-Pirates.com already is the one-stop place for LEGO pirates isn't it? :pir-classic:

It is for me. Many of us link Brickset as a set database, regardless of the theme. It provides different information.

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White Fang: I'm esp. glad you enjoyed the poll results. I don't think we've seen results of polls in an analytic form before, so I'm glad I added it to the article. Thank you also for the great feedback which I always enjoy reading and appreciate.

It's very enjoyable to read whenever I click onto your topic. I like the way you tabulate and analysis the results. As I have view it from a marketing perspective, I find this piece of information extremely useful and it have never come across my mind that we could do data mining from in-house data. It sure put things into right perspective. :pir_laugh2:

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What a superbly informative article! Well done, The Brickster! I especially liked seeing all variations of the minifigs together - sans the mermaid and the governor's daughter, which would've been nice to see up there as well.

This brings me to the only complaint I have about the article, and it's really minor: even though we don't know the real "status" of the white-dressed female minifig that comes with the ship, naming her "imperial queen/princess" is really farfetched and irrational, because why would the wife or daughter of the British or French emperor would even come anywhere near the Caribbean Sea, let alone a pirate ship? Her being the governor's daughter or something like that would be much more plausible, don't you think? :wink:

But that's really up to everyone's taste, the minifig can be whatever you want in your imagination. By the way, I adore your modification of that minifig, svelte_corps! :wub:

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even though we don't know the real "status" of the white-dressed female minifig that comes with the ship, naming her "imperial queen/princess" is really farfetched and irrational, because why would the wife or daughter of the British or French emperor would even come anywhere near the Caribbean Sea, let alone a pirate ship? Her being the governor's daughter or something like that would be much more plausible, don't you think? :wink:

This is probably from my interest in the Castle theme :pir-blush: . I did not consider the "Governor's Daughter" which is definately a better choice. Let's see what Lego calls her when they bring up their Pirate site.

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Super article.

Initially I decided never to collect the new pirate theme.

But having read your article, I might just check out a few of the smaller sets...and those imperials are pretty cool...

Arw nuts :pir-sceptic:

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After the end of Exo-Force I had really high hopes on the newly announced Pirates theme. After all, I have to spend my Lego-money on something, haven´t I? As I own some random classic Pirate and Islanders sets and loads of Palm trees and foliage, I was actually planning on building a nice Pirate layout, including the new Pirate theme.

When the names popped up, my hopes were even higher then, and the first bad-quality pictures that showed up later... Well, let´s just say my anticipation was enormous.

Then the first sets arrived and we were able to see part counts, price tags, building methods, set design in detail and some really outstanding and detailed reviews.

And that was the time this new Pirate theme had lost.

The building methods are heavily aimed at a very young audience, the Fort lacks detail, the baseplate of Loot Island looks even worse than any BURP before and the price per piece count is horrible.

While the minifigs are really nice and the set ideas great, what TLC made of it is poor.

Pirates were present all those years, as the 4+ theme. This new theme looks the same to me. Similar set design, similar detail level, very basic building techniques, same audience... just in Minifig size. I´ll strictly pass on this theme and rather wait for something else to better spend my money on.

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Good article :thumbup:

But I'm not too fond of the "new pirates" line, it's a bit overrated, just because it is a comeback of pirates.

The new line only ranks average for me, and that's mostly because of some great new accesories (telescope for example) and awesome minifigs. The design of the sets are a bit of a letdown, they seem a lot more "<insert that tiresome argument>" (not really because of large parts, although there are more of those than with the original pirates), but more the overall feel/design, I allmost get a "4+ feeling" by looking at some of them.

Maybe I'll get a few of the impulse sets and cannon battle, but the rest I'll get from BL, I hope, since the prices are simply ridiculous (I hate it when they rip people off, just because they haven't been released worldwide yet), "steve" and "anchor chest tattoo pirate" are allmost cheaper, and they're much rarer, or they will be at least when new pirates are released in more countries. Just like the trolls/orcs where more expensive than black falcons and crusaders, ridiculous.

Edited by Fluyt

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Dear TheBrickster,

I enjoyed reading your article!

Although we don't have the pirates available in Europe yet all the reviews do give a good impression of the line-up. :thumbup::pir-classic:

Currently, I have my collection of old pirates sets on display on a shelf in my home.

I do not have all the classic pirates sets, but I have about 80% of them and all ships except for the Red Beard Runner, which I just didnt like at the time :pir-hmpf_bad: .

To make a long story short; I feel fine displaying the classic pirates sets as I do with the Star Wars sets as well.

But, I have my doubts about the current line up. Although, I haven't seen a photo with the current BB alongside the BSB and SES.

With this line up I'm not sure if i will display them or use them as parts packs for pirates MOCs...

I guess this feeling about displaying the current pirates sets is simular to people feeling something lacking design-wise...

Are there any owners of the current pirates sets that have a simular line of thinking and can enlighten me a bit?

Kind regards,

Teddy

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The Brickster, you...!

You did it man, what an outstanding article, i'd almost think you are Superman working undercover for the daily planet! :thumbup:

On the theme overall i voted above average, if they want outstanding, they should hire me as designer. :pir-grin:

But i seriously do like the new figs and parts!

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impressive article you did there The Brickster, quite a pain for me to read, but impressive , I rated it outstanding! I also rated the new pirates theme outstanding because I'm waiting it for soo long I just can't give it another vote^^

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