Jammiedodger

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  1. This has to be one of the best pieces of comedy I've read, so many good jokes! Seriously though, great job to once again derail the thread into bashing, after multitudes of the previously valid points (for and against all SW) that others have made coherently and maturely, without ridiculously exaggerated (and clearly misguided) accusations - not arguments. It would help a bit adding an 'I think' or 'IMO' here and there. Honestly, it doesn't even matter to me that it's the PT you're bashing, it could be the OT/ST/EU for all I care. IMO the sort of reply you have posted is what drives this fan base to be one of the most disliked. It comes across all kinds of stupid and bait-ish, and would probably get you timed-out/banned on quite a few SW-only forums... if anyone paid any attention to such a post - plus it really ticks me off. Meh, your loss I suppose. Not going any further with this on here anyway, I feel like I've wasted my time responding already. Anyway, I saw a couple of hilarious Star Wars memes that came up the other day that I'd never seen before. Really made me chuckle: Also, anyone seen this old video game concept art for Kenobi if he fell to the dark side? Wish they had made an else-world sort of game which involved that. So I present a what-if scenario to discuss: if Obi Wan and Yoda (or just Yoda) had gone to Anakin first, could they have talked him down? And if Yoda had let Obi Wan fight Sidious, would Kenobi be turned instead? Probably not, but fun to think about or speculate on Honestly, while Anakin had fallen so deep into the dark side at that point, I could see Yoda+Kenobi+Padme combined as being able to at least reason with him (though he wouldn't be redeemed, he would not stay a Sith). I think the crucial moment is in Palpatine's office however, and if Anakin had instead sided with Mace. I would guess at that point Sidious would either retreat or kick their butts. As a side note, I had another thought about the emphasis on Anakin being the Chosen One in the films. I think that is really one of the main reasons he acts the way he does. He is told from the start he will change the ENTIRE galaxy for the better, which is obviously an enormous responsibility and has many effects of the psyche. I don't blame him for getting mad at his mentors holding him back, after being told he will fulfil such a prophecy, and therefore loosing control in the wrong manner as opposed to being taught how to channel it. In a way I think the Council didn't really know how to handle him!
  2. In a way I wish I could have been there to see when it all started, because the many feats and the hype the original films achieved is astounding. Not sure how it was in the UK though, but I'm sure it was crazy in the US. I'm very happy to have grown up with the Prequels though; the opening scene to RotS will always make me tear-up! The PT was insanely popular and hyped with my generation too, I think it was easy for the older fans and criticisers to not see that, which is a shame. I'm glad so many people love TFA, even though I am not as fond of it as I would like to be. But hey, at least all the movies have greatly touched each generation, and while there are arguments, there is nothing that everyone whole heartedly agrees is awful!
  3. Sure, the trading stuff wasn't for you, but I don't think that doesn't make it ridiculous for those aspects to be liked by many others? The reason to dislike the Federation is because they are using taxes and a very visible blockade to subjugate an entire populace, and they are very quickly established as being supported by the Sith (Sidious/Emperor). Yeah the accents should have been not so obviously stereotyped, but at the end of the day the Imperial Officers were very English sounding but us Brits don't complain about being the bad guys! Honestly I never really took them as sides we needed to be fully invested in until the Clone Wars series came out, initially to me The Clone Wars was the horrible (though visually stunning) situation the Jedi found themselves in, the instrument to their downfall and the rise of the Sith. It was always going to end badly, but why not explore it further and know how it went so wrong? The same goes for the ST - something else will always go tits-up, but why explore that? The reason is they both expand on the characters established in the OT, and it doesn't matter if it's not done the way some people expected - it's George Lucas' story and we are lucky we have gotten what we have and most people enjoy them for what they are. And the Clones are a representation of the galactic situation - shiny, modern, seemingly honourable, but deeply corrupt and governed by darker powers unbeknownst to the majority (and themselves). Clones also speak like individuals, albeit the same person. They are also respectable and understandable, loyal to their fellow troopers (you didn't see that with Stormies), and obey orders which they are taught (or as we learn later, modified) to believe for the good of the Republic. They are born to be soldiers, most Stormtroopers were not. RE them being the same masks/face... I'm pretty sure that sort of idea was established in ANH when Obi Wan talks about the Republic and says 'Clone Wars'. You yourself has raised the moral dilemma, and we are having the discussion intended right now - are they individuals with souls, or not at all? I would say not the latter. The fact they name themselves and change their armour makes them more individual in a way than the Stormtroopers. Though, that was the point, to show how Palpatine unified and at the same time took individuality away (from not just the 'servants', but the galaxy). Ouch I personally rather fabricated but realistic and visually new/alien sets over blatant puppets and Earthly 'practical' locations. There aren't many practical locations you could use for the environments in the PT that are not Earth like ones. I dunno, I've seen enough to know how much they used and that IMO it was good stuff, fair enough if they were not as good as you would have liked, though I strongly disagree from the many images and clips I have seen. I think if Lucas and the marketing team hadn't just focussed so much on pushing the CG and had also promoted all the practical effects they used as well, this go-to antiPT argument probably wouldn't come up so often. Unfortunately for a lot of your points, canon does matter. And yes I will 'claim' that. They are good films. They are not bad movies. That is my opinion. If you went by the ratings counted by people who care enough to vote (lets face it, that isn't that may considering how many have seen the movies), they are at the least average. I remember seeing a few articles on how the PT were rated about equal to how the OT was rated when that came out, how accurate that was I don't know but it didn't surprise me - the OT has many flaws too and they are all very different to the norm films. ?! I don't see how there is anything wrong with Palpatine's scheming. He did that in the OT the whole time as well, though we didn't see it. The disbanding of the Senate, managing to secretly build a second Death Star, then hiding the fact that it was operational etc etc. If anything it showed to me how much of a badass and formidable opponent he is. The fact he did it so efficiently showed how much the Jedi were losing their path in more ways than one. That leads into the prophecy of the Chosen One - to anyone outside, it obviously means the Jedi will be wiped out to match with the Sith's number of two, but the Jedi are so assured of themselves they can't see that. Erm, I don't think that was what most people took from the films, and I never took it that way. Luke shoots two missiles into a shaft that leads the reactor, which makes it blow up. That's like saying if I shot a gas tank with a gun, I'm not responsible even though I made two attempts to aim and destroy it. And sure, it was for the greater good, but at what costs? Sure, the principles of the DS was very very bad, and it was run and occupied by many bad guys, and it was going to destroy the planet the Rebels are based on, but that's still a truly massive loss of life no matter if they are guilty, ignorant, or innocent. I dunno, they really do skip over that and Leia's reaction to Alderaan's destruction. @Armstong Yong - Yeah I understand that, but just because the puppets and animatronics/models used in the OT are real doesn't exactly make them realistic, to me anyway. Sure, they're 'real', but not as realistic and as open to the expansion CGI provides. It's a silly and overused argument, as the same can be said for so many movies. The fact the actors were not directed as well as they should have been is not the fault of the greenscreen and CGI, it's the unfortunate coincidence and the fault of Lucas and mainly his 'yes-men'. In the situations in the PT where the actors are in 'real' places, is the acting really any better for those who are bothered by it and would use that argument? E.g. Tatooine, Naboo lakes etc. Things change, and the change in Star Wars helped all movies in general. @Forresto - Yeah it could have focussed more on Obi Wan, but then it wouldn't have shown Anakin's personal battles he fought and lost on his fall to the dark side. I could really see people complaining about that, if it had focused more on Kenobi. It is the Skywalker story, after all. And yeah, the Jedi really were going down the wrong path. Like Yoda says in Rebels, 'In our arrogance, joined the conflict swiftly, we did. Anger, and hate. Consumed by the Dark Side, the Jedi were.', and that even he did not see how they were wrong. Some good posts on Anakin's fall I've seen, and great reads: http://thepsychologyofdarthvader.tumblr.com/post/58584132014/the-psychology-of-darth-vader-entry-two-august http://daretotouchthebutt.blogspot.com/2014/08/anakin-skywalker-slavethe-victim-killer.html
  4. Surely that's to be expected when it's a galactic wide conflict and the droids are also an endless mass? The same goes for Stormtroopers - they are an endless mass, do things without question, and are just faceless bad guys (who also suck at their job, unlike Clones). Even the Rebel soldiers, while not faceless, most we see lack any character and are basically extras. All the armies in Star Wars are that way, because if they spent time delving into individual characters we would have 20+ movies before the ST. And who cares that real people didn't play them in costume - they look real, and shouldn't make a difference. They also need to look the same, being Clones and all... Besides, most were motion captured by Tem Morrison or other actors. Does it matter that background Stormtroopers were played by extras but they didn't really do anything, or that scenes with large amounts of Stormies (e.g. Emperor's Arrival) was a painting with SFX on top? If CGI existed back in the days of the OT, it would have been used extensively there too. No one complains about the uses of CGI in other modern 'masterpieces' which look worse than the Prequels, or the abundance of models and paintings used in the OT. The CGI was groundbreaking, and we wouldn't have the films we have today without those advances made in the PT. Besides, the amount of practical effects used in the PT is quite large too. Check out the thread on Jedi Council Forums! Pretty cool stuff. R.E. Jedi. The Jedi don't have time to question it as much as they should, that's the whole point and why Palpatine schemed it that way. They get rushed into accepting it because they cannot win the war on their own - the battle in the Arena proved that. The Force isn't on their side from the start, and the fact they rush in and are forced to accept it means Palpatine has already won (which we knew he would do anyway). The following events leading up to RotS are him cementing his position as Chancellor, twisting Anakin to be his next apprentice, and choosing which army he will use. And regarding the morals of Jedi/Clones... do any of the Rebels question destroying Death Stars which probably had many innocent people on board, and a probably many soldiers who did not understand what they were truly doing? Nope, they just blew them up because 'bad-guys'. You should watch the Clone Wars, where all these things you raised are explored extensively and are cannon - like it or not. And about the droids... maybe the B1s are weak cannon fodder like Stormtroopers (who get beaten by tiny Ewoks with pebbles and sticks...), but you're forgetting the B2s and Droidekas. Mass produced cheap droid units are going to not be very good at withstanding blaster fire, but their sheer numbers overwhelm the enemy. The additional support of stronger units (as demonstrated in specific scenes in each PT film) make the droid army a very large threat. That's the one, thanks Forresto! I remember it included Outbound Flight and Thrawn but wasn't sure how it all linked together! Jake Lloyd as Anakin in Episode I was fantastic, but unfortunately bullying from fanboys and others seems to have greatly contributed to his current condition. Really pathetic stuff seeing as he did better than most other children ever would (he was definitely better than Portman). Regarding Jar Jar, yeah he really isn't as bad as people make out (the same goes for the movie). In a way as a character he is better morally that many others like C3-PO. I'd rather an innocent bumbling fool alien with solidly good intentions on my team opposed to a bumbling fool droid who is quite a coward, and annoyingly sassy (though he does mean well, he's a bit of a douche about it). In fact, my girlfriend watched the films with me for the first time just before TFA came out, and she couldn't stand C3-PO! She preferred the PT in the end as well.
  5. I have to say it is quite funny reading people getting stressed about people's complaints about the Force Awakens. I guess some of you now know how many Prequel fans (like me) have felt growing up, wanting to defend those films, and feeling like we can't admit we like those movies as we'll be judged instantly and aggressively criticised. Many of my friends gave up on Star Wars all together because of it, which is plain wrong. Just be glad it's cool to like the Force Awakens, you have it easy... These are just movies, it's personal taste and opinions, so don't get bothered about it. I've learnt only recently to not give a flying megablock what fanboys think of the PT. They are my favourite SW movies/time period, and always will be. Be happy about what you like and don't worry about other people. Stick up for them sure, but don't be offended enough to have to write on a forum 'I don't understand, how could they?!?!'. Honestly, if the whole fandom thought that way, we wouldn't have all the rifts and fanboyism. It would also mean people don't have to write '....even though I don't like PT/OT/ST....' every time anything remotely to do with that subject comes up - who cares, keep it to yo'self! Having said that, some of you should head over the the Jedi Council Forums and read discussions there; they put a lot of the stupidity of the hate towards the PT and ST in perspective. From a few comments I've seen around here recently, some of you sorely need that. Lots of information on there and podcasts like RebelForceRadio should help anyone be happy with Star Wars as a whole - 'Just let it in'. It helped me appreciate some aspects of TFA, as I was sorely disappointed by it. However unlike I think that's quite a large comparison to make, seeing as the Nazis (Empire) were not in control of the entire world (galaxy). Honestly I'm surprised at the fact the Empire failed so miserably after Endor. Sure, their two main head-honchos died, and The Force works in weird ways, but that destabilising an entire galaxy-wide army?? I know Stormtroopers are stupid, but the Moffs never gave that impression. I'd like to think they didn't put them all on the DSII after what happened to the first! Hold up, 'mindless'? 'No moral conundrums'? I don't recall ever seeing a Stormtrooper's face, or learning about how they were trained? Only Finn has come close to the background given in AotC about the Clone army. You literally see them as babies in jars, then as children in intensive training, adolescents learning other combat, and then being ready for deployment. How is that mindless and not morally questionable? Obi Wan's (and others') unease is clear at the prospect of using the army. From what I gathered, the morals and lack of information around the army was why the Council were reluctant to use it. You also get to know the man that is their template (physically/mentally) and trains them. And that's just the movies, not counting all the other canon material like The Clone Wars. If Stormtroopers aren't mindless, then Clones certainly are not. Droids however are meant to be mindless. If anything, droids and Stormtroopers seem more alike than Clones and Stormtroopers! The fact that droids exist in the OT could have raised the question 'Why weren't they weaponised?'. Well, we now know they were, and they weren't very good at winning, so Sidious chose to stick with Clone/human soldiers. By controlling both sides, he could decide which force (pun not intended) was best to use in his quest to rule - cheap mass produced droids to overwhelm the enemy, or super soldiers to get the job done efficiently? That's what I took from it anyway. Though why Palpatine phased out hyper efficient and deadly Clone Troopers for human recruits always puzzled me. Save money? Sure. But it you're a Sith Lord in charge of the galaxy and basically the money flowing through it, surely you should be able to twist it to your will and get all the toys you want?! Anyway, I remember reading/hearing somewhere a while back that in the original EU, Palps was building the Death Stars to also safeguard against extra-galactic invasion, as the Vong has already started to probe the galaxy (still so peeved TCW got cancelled and we never saw that episode). Wondered whether anyone knows more about that? I could never find more info on it.
  6. Spoilers inbound. To hell with the Critics. I never was sure about their opinions and the score justifications, and this only confirms that they aren't for me. Rotten Tomatoes and Collider are now off my saved tabs! Giving average films high scores and awful excuses for movies like Sharknado over 80% was always laughable! Can't wait to see what Snyder does next, but I'm sure we're in for a treat! The best showing I've been to as the audience goes too, I will always remember it fondly Looking forward to the extended cut! Hopefully Batman says the famous line in that, as it was the only thing I would have added to the movie.
  7. Hi guys, Been following this thread whenever I can, but haven't actually been able to order many of these sets over the past year and my cart total has racked up ($100+)! Now the new Iron Man set is out, I'm pretty keen on catching up all at once! Just wondering if any of you guys in the UK who buy large from AliExpress have to pay import charges when the package arrives? I don't remember having to on my last orders, but I thought I'd ask incase I got lucky. Really want these figures to expand on TLGs current selection. Thanks!
  8. My ideal tree is one surrounded by friends and family, while they open and enjoy their presents! (yes, Vader got Hulk gloves and the Emperor an Iron Man helmet - Santa did good this year!)
  9. A small garden retreat to read the paper and grow plants during the summer!
  10. The Empire encounter some new inhabitants on the planet Hoth during the invasion...
  11. Here is my second entry depicting the murder of Stas Allie in Order 66, carried out by Commander Neyo. I used skeleton limbs and the scorched robe piece for Allie because LEGO haven't made a figure of her yet, and it is probably what she looked like after the explosion. I also made my own BARC speeder. To see more of the detail on this MOC, please look here. Thanks.
  12. Here's one of my slightly late entries to the community build. I made this scene because it was the last time Anakin and Obi Wan were together as friends, and for that reason I thought it was important to cover... Thanks for looking, and please look here for more images.
  13. Count me in! This'll be a good way to get me back into SW MOCing!