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Why did Lego never sell 12v trains in United States
Bloodwave replied to Bloodwave's topic in LEGO Train Tech
@Jetflap You may be right, as several 12v sets from 1980 were not sold in Western European area (France-UK-Italy) until 1982. But I do not suscribe to all the points you have mentionned, especially this one The same goes in Europe. I believe the key to confirm this legal reason is a persisting rumour or not is written in US and Canadian standards about toy safety (files named ASTM F963 and C22.2 No. 149-1972). Unfortunately, you must pay to read it (about 80$ each ) What I know is : in Canada, the definition of a toy is "a product that is intended for use by a child under 14 in learning or play ". hobby train manufacturer advise on their "serious" hoby trains box with AC/DC transformer (like what Gary described) "Recommended for ages 14 years old & up" Lego 12v trains were intended for 8+ kids Almost all hobby trains for 8+ kids findable on Amazon are battery operated but I have seen a model with a 17 VDC transformer, 7 Volt-Ampere (VA), Lego Trains were 12 VDC but 8 Volt-Ampere Well, it would be wonderful, but that guy must be 75-80 years old now, I doubt to see him posting on Eurobricks one day ;) -
Why did Lego never sell 12v trains in United States
Bloodwave replied to Bloodwave's topic in LEGO Train Tech
You are right, but even if their decisions can sometimes be weird, it is strange to imagine Lego throwing away such a huge potential revenue source like the US market. Like you said, HO and O scale trains are popular, I believe it was also the case back in the 70's and 80's, so were Lego toys. On Lego 12v trains boxes, it 's written "from 8 years". Perhaps, it is a question of age restriction (under 12 years old ?), as the target audience for Lego trains is slightly younger than for HO scale train ? -
Hi everyone, Reviewing 7750 Steam Engine with Tender, I have mentioned this set was pretty rare, mainly because it was sold in very few countries. Of course United States were not one of these countries as 12v trains were never been sold there. My question is why. I have made some research over the forum and the net but I have not find any official reason. I have even read the US laws concerning toys safety, but like we say in France, it's clear as dirty sock juice... Wandering this forum, It seems that 12v trains did not meet the US legal volage requirements for electric toys but if someone could confirm it, I would appreciate. Many thanks
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Message to all "hardcore" collectors of the grey 12v train era 1980-1990
Bloodwave replied to Carrera124's topic in LEGO Train Tech
As 7750 was not available for sale in France, United Kingdom and Italy (see image below from my FR/UK/IT Train Catalogue) it's almost certain that it was not available on the Iberic peninsula too. WP_20180216_19_28_21_Pro by M G, sur Flickr -
Help: when were your 12v motors released? Let's complete the table!
Bloodwave replied to Reza's topic in LEGO Train Tech
De rien, avec plaisir :) Yeah, sorry. seems to be a copy/paste issue. It's of course a type 4. Please see the photos below. This motor came with a second hand 7727, I think it is the original motor. WP_20180206_12_55_09_Pro by M G, sur Flickr WP_20180206_12_55_50_Pro by M G, sur Flickr -
Help: when were your 12v motors released? Let's complete the table!
Bloodwave replied to Reza's topic in LEGO Train Tech
Here it is : Black type 1 19 0 Black type 1 30 0 Black type 2 15 81 Black type 3 17 4 Black type 3 25 5 Black type 3 29 5 Black type 3 10 6 Black type 4 13 9 Red type 2 14 82 Red type 3 02 3 -
12v trains in alternative colours - looking for some inspiration
Bloodwave replied to exstatik's topic in LEGO Train Tech
Hi everyone Here is an engine insired by 7760 alternate model with 7745 livery WP_20171018_17_13_14_Pro by M G, sur Flickr And one inspired by 7777 model #3 WP_20171018_17_17_49_Pro by M G, sur Flickr -
Yes it will work. As you said, you will just need to build an homemade adaptator with plates to connect grey era tracks with modern RC/PF tracks.
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Anyone know the secret history of the gray era 12v/4.5v system?
Bloodwave replied to zephyr1934's topic in LEGO Train Tech
I have a 1981 train European version catalogue which mentions that 7750 was not available in Italy, UK and France. I assume it was only released in Danmark, Germany, Netherlands and probably Belgium as it's written in French on the box. One more reason for this set to be the most expensive nowadays. -
According to my cristal globe, there will be nothing in the second half as well. If we rely on the 4 years cycle release basis since 2006, the next train will be in 2017, and it will be a Creator one. Year 1 : One passenger train and one freight train (7897-7898 in 2006, 7938-7939 in 2010, 60051-60052 in 2014) Year 2 : One limited release freight train (3677 in 2011, 60098 in 2015) Year 3 : nothing Year 4 : One creator train (EN in 2009, HE in 2013) Year 5 : New cycle I know, that theory can be destroyed with two exceptions : no limited release train in 2007 and the Maersk Train in 2011 so my cristal globe may be wrong
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12V Train Motor(BB12V) disassembly and repair
Bloodwave replied to Andromeda's topic in LEGO Train Tech
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I have a couple of question for Andromeda. When you talk about that metallic cylinder here (see photo of one of my 12v motor with broken wheel), what tool did you use to open it ? And can the mid wheels on the 12v motors be separated from there plastic axle in order to replace a driving Wheel, cause it seems there is the same cylindric part in those ? EDIT : for the first question I have my answer. As the Wheel is broken, I managed to push the metallic part to the exterior with a screwdriver. EDIT 2 : I have the answer to my second question. Yes, the wheel are the same ! With a tiny screwdriver, I was able to gently pull the plastic axle from the middle wheel, then the cylndrical metallic part itself by pushing it from the external hole of the wheel. After that I was able to replace the metallic part, then the new wheel to my motor driving axle without opening it. One 12v motor back in business ! :) -
Just click on the links and then click the "download" button once you are on Imgaeshack, you will get the images.
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The first train I've received was the 7720 Diesel Freight train, I think it was for Christmas 84. As a 5-YO litlle boy, I was very happy, but the 4.5 volts system was so frustrating when I saw the 12v trains in the lego catalogues and all that wonderful remote controlled stuff and of course, that marvellous 7740. Fortunately, during the second half of 80's, parents and other family members bought me the 7735 Freight train, 7823 Container Crane, 7815 and 7819 Wagons, 7866 Road Crossing, manual points, crossing, extra rails, train lights, 7864 transformer and even a 7865 12v Motor in order to allow the 7720 to get more speed. Yes, happy childhood. Cannot count the number of hours I spent looking to those trains cruising in my bedroom. I almost cried when the 9v system appeared. 9V is maybe the reason why I 've definitely turned my back to trains for castles, the other theme I used to play at the same time. Even if my darkage lasted more than 20years, I kept every of my childhood train sets (boxes excepted, stupid idiot I was...) and now I play with those trains (and newer) with my own kids. And last but not least, I've just bought that 7740 Inner city that made me dream 30 years ago :)
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[help] 7866 How to repair red Leds and Flashing unit
Bloodwave replied to Bloodwave's topic in LEGO Train Tech
Right, diode was not the proper term, my bad. For the intensity difference, as told before and following your advice, I will keep the original Lego lamps exclusively for the level crossing lights in order to have the right intensity and resistance, that way the flashing unit might do its job properly. I will try a 60mA lamp as locomotive light plugged in the 12v motor, I hope that as the locomotive lights are never "full powered", the temperature will not be a problem.